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The Odd Couple, sponsored by Baillie Gifford – John Humphrys and Matthew Norman discuss defence spending


We're not at war, says John - so why waste money that could go to African aid? Russian attacks are increasing - and the Far Right is on the march - across Europe. So we must pay to keep them at bay, says Matthew.

This week's podcast is kindly sponsored by Baillie Gifford, Actual Investors, who take a long-term approach to investing in exceptional companies.


Recorded at Yamaha Music Studios